Talk:Hobgoblins (by DracoDruid)/@comment-4996018-20120502135452

Hmm... you both are right.

But, negative WIS also means lower Will-Save and lower perception.

A penalty to CHA seems fine, but as I said, I don't want to punish bards and sorcerers (bards where even mentioned to exist among one group of hobgoblins).

The second part of the ability sentence was from an older version when they still had a CHA penalty.

Maybe I will simply give them +2 DEX and that's it...